Maps of Meaning #10

[balupton (Benjamin Lupton)]

Discussion thread for 2017 Maps of Meaning - Lecture #10

study group discussions

Discussion as part of our Study Group.

2017-04-29: Maps of Meaning #10

topic discussion notes Belief systems and games A mutual belief system supports mutual game playing, including cooperative competition, no way to avoid fighting, but best way to reduce is to converge belief systems A different belief system results in these options Capitulate / disengage Fight Negotiate: Identify presuppositions, find similarities and differences Australia Has always had a values test Recently cancelled a economic migration visa due to right wing ri…

2017-05-06: Maps of Meaning #10, #11

topics discussion notes Why people are not having children In Australia, people don’t seem to want to have children. Leave them with a nanny. In Sweden, people seem to want children, but are not in a stable relationship and lack the financial stability. In Colombia, people are having children early. Women seek other ways to fill their life with meaning → career Women try to attract men the way men attract women (with status/resources) Does it work? Men seem to value finan…

[balupton (Benjamin Lupton)]

my notes

• 06:00 - no mythology in communism, universities is pushing equity as equality of outcome - who decides, by what means, by what groups - never going to get equality of outcome in the infinite amount of ways we can divide people up, unless you want everyone to have nothing

• 07:30 - is there ideas that western civilisation is built upon, if so, what are they?

• 14:00 - the idea that predicates western civilisation, is that there is a transcendent morality - and unless one does that, then they have no defences against pathological ideologies - and if you believe you can replace tradition with yourself, there is nothing to keep you humble and you may think yourself a demigod

• 22:00 - a leader gives articulation to the imagination of those he leads

• 29:00 - there are things that think in you - we say “I had a dream” not that “I dreamt” - cloud atlas uses “dreamt”

• 33:00 - how to manifest yourself properly in the world - is the ultimate question - and the one we have been working on since the beginning of time - culture strives to aid you in this question

• 36:00 - morality emerges itself from playing games, the meta-morality arises from playing life - what is common between all of them, the pyramid of value -** the unity of our value and how we order it**

• 39:00 - the role dominance hierarchies has on those who play

• 41:00 - we populate the unknown with the fantasy of deities using our imagination

  • << what if we have a damaged imagination? >>

• 42:00 - the imagination and predisposition for language, is a structure clinging to define itself

• 44:00 - nihilistic - why bother solving a problem if it is a hydra, versus giving up and dying - malevolent: it’s too much, we must destroy it all

• 45:00 - archetypes are representation of adaptive behaviour

• 48:00 - what do you want to subordinate yourself to? what do you pick to be your ruler?

• 49:00 - when you are torturing yourself with your conscience, what ideal are you ignoring that is causing that?

• 50:00 - structures tend to become pathological in nature - seth - you want to destroy the pathological stuff and revise it with new learnings

  • << isn’t that what the feminists and postmodernists are doing? >>

• 58:00 - precise thought (left hemisphere - picture of details, excludes many things), incomplete thought (right hemisphere - picture of everything, full of contradictions) - dreams sacrifice coherence for completeness - waking thought sacrifices completeness for coherence

• 59:30 - we have to face everything, even if we don’t understanding anything completely

• 1:04:00 - an equilibrated state is when the individuals benefit as much as the group, and it cannot be done alone, so the individuals want that - this stacks on many levels

• 1:08:00 - slide of eden

• 1:13:00 - slide of bible links

• 1:15:00 - slide of bible summary

• 1:24:00 - groups should reward those who bring productive vision

• 1:27:00 - the law is articulation of the best rules we have - which still assumes you as an individual is sovereign

• 1:33:00 - humans are genies (the uniting god) in a bottle (human body)

• 1:50:00 - western societies are aware of the mortality of the future, so they sacrifice the present for the future with work

• 2:08:00 - healthy kids are healthy enough to find trouble and to solve it - unhealthy kids avoid trouble as they can’t cope with it

• 2:10:00 - it’s great but it’s not good enough

• 2:17:00 - can we live harmoniously with the thought of death?